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Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

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Hallo liebes Forum,
ich melde mich auch mal wieder. Habe seit gestern ein Problem. Sky bleibt dunkel. Die Karte steckt ganz normal im Kartenleser der Box.

Hier mal der Log ab Start.
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 09C4 ECM_PID: 1BB6 PROVID: 000000
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 09AF ECM_PID: 1FB6 PROVID: 000000
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 098C ECM_PID: 1AB6 PROVID: 000000
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECMpids and 4 STREAMpids in caPMT
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 no suitable readers found that can be used for decoding!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 3 ECMpids and 4 STREAMpids in PMT
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:49 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] PLL Reader: ATR Fsmax is 5 MHz, clocking card to 4.50 Mhz (nearest possible mhz specified reader->mhz)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Card type: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Rom version: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Credit available on card: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Extended XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] FuseByte: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Region Code: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Country Code: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] Pincode read: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] PCB settings: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] type: VideoGuard Sky Austria/Germany (098C), caid: 098C
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] serial: ########, BoxID: ########, baseyear: XXX
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] ready for requests
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [internal] found card system videoguard2
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] THIS WAS A SUCCESSFUL START ATTEMPT No 1 out of max alloted of 1
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] card detected
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] type: VideoGuard Sky Austria/Germany (098C)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] ------------------------------------------------------------------
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |- class -|-- tier --|----- valid to ------|--- package name ----|
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] +---------+----------+---------------------+---------------------+
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0068 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0069 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 006a --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 006b --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Hits HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0065 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | HD+ ungenutzt
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0066 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky HD Bundesliga Fanzone
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0067 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | HD+ ungenutzt
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 006f --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0070 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0071 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0072 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0073 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 007b --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky AT/DE / 19.2E / DE
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0075 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 |
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 007d --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Sport
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 0081 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Bundesliga
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 008e --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Beate-Uhse.TV
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00c0 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Welt Extra
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00c8 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Film
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00c9 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Welt HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00ca --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Film HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00c7 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Welt
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00e4 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Bundesliga HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00e5 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky Sport HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00fa --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Blue Movie HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00f3 --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Blue Movie Info
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:50 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] |-- 00 ---|-- 00ff --| 2016/07/10-01:00:00 | Sky AT/DE / 19.2E / DE
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:51 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] ------------------------------------------------------from-ins70--
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:51 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 2069 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:51 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:51 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (0 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (0 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:52 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:53 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:53 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (0 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:53 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:53 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:54 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:3B0DD1A4C748147AF26B56FCCB438146): rejected group (0 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:54 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:54 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:54 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:54 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:55 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 33295575 c (client) encrypted cccam-client 87.184.204.229 rejected (disabled account)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 33295575 c (cccam) password for 'clientmm1' invalid!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 33295575 c (client) anonymous disconnected from 87.184.204.229
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:56 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:57 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:57 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (0 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:57 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 1 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:57 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:57 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:42E118A9F645EBD28BEB24E86C72C21E): rejected group (1 ms) - Sky Cinema HD (no matching reader)
  • 2016/05/28 09:31:58 05A812B0 c (-) -- Skipped 1 duplicated log lines --
Hier mal meine Übersicht aus dem WebIF
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Readers
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[TD="class: statuscol5 statuscol5ON, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"] [/TD]
[TD="class: statuscol7, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]127.0.0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: statuscol8, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: statuscol9, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]internal[/TD]
[TD="class: statuscol12, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]0000:0000@000000[/TD]
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[TD="class: statuscol15, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]00:09:45
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[TD="class: statuscol16 statuscol16CARDOK, bgcolor: #FFF3E7"]CARDOK
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Clients
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[TD="class: statuscol9, bgcolor: #F1F5E6"]dvbapi[/TD]
[TD="class: statuscol12, bgcolor: #F1F5E6"]0083:098C@000000[/TD]
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[TD="class: statuscol14, bgcolor: #F1F5E6"] [/TD]
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[/TABLE]
Hier meine oscam.server
[reader]enable = 1
label = skyv14
group = 1
protocol = internal
device = /dev/sci0
caid = 098C
boxid = 12345678
ecmwhitelist = 098C:98,9B,97,57,91
detect = cd
emmcache = 1,3,2,0
blockemm-unknown = 1
blockemm-u = 1
blockemm-s = 1
blockemm-g = 1
saveemm-u = 1
ins7e11 = 15
mhz = 600
cardmhz = 357
ndsversion = 2
services = !SAT-SKY-Sonstige,!SAT-SKY-Select,!SAT-SKY-BlueMovie
Hier meine oscam.dvbapi
P: 1843 1
P: 098C
Und hier meine oscam.config
[global]disablelog = 1
serverip = XXXXXX
logfile = /tmp/oscam.log
pidfile = /tmp/oscam.pid
fallbacktimeout = 5000
nice = -1
maxlogsize = 2048
waitforcards = 0
preferlocalcards = 1
usrfile = /tmp/user.log
emmlogdir = /etc/tuxbox/log


[cs378x]
port = XXXXXXXX


[cccam]
port = XXXXXXXX
nodeid = FC6AD83F10CB158C
version = 2.3.0
reshare = 0
ignorereshare = 1


[dvbapi]
enabled = 1
user = dvbapi_01
au = 1
pmt_mode = 0
delayer = 60
extended_cw_api = 2
boxtype = dreambox
Was ist denn über Nacht auf einmal passiert, dass nichts mehr läuft? Karte habe ich gestern mit einem sauberen EMM beschrieben, weil ich dachte, dass die Laufzeit vielleicht damit zu tun haben könnte.

Über einen Tipp würde ich mich ganz doll freuen
 
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AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

raus nehmen -> ecmwhitelist = 098C:98,9B,97,57,91
von der Umstellung natürlich nicht mitbekommen? wird ja nirgendwo was drüber geschrieben ... :D

KLICK

du wirst vermutlich das Global EMM A0 schreiben müssen damit die Karte ein Update bekommt, ein F0 Enti hast du ja nicht
 
AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

Danke schon mal dafür. Nun folgendes.
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:09 05A812B0 c (ecm) dvbapi_01 (098C@000000/025B/0083/9D:893B5218C81E6E87B602B17C1BF68181:0F06000120): not found (1 ms) by skyv14 - Sky Cinema HD
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:10 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decodingrequests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 2 disabled ecmpids!
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:10 05A812B0 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 2 CAID 098C PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1AB6 ANY CHID PMTPID 0064 VPID 04FF
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:10 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] classD3 ins54: no cw --> Card appears in error
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:10 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] classD3 ins54: no cw --> Tier expired
  • 2016/05/28 09:54:10 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] classD3 ins54: no cw --> Card is not paired (Debug-ECM-Info: 0F_06 00 01 20 00 00 03)
 
AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

Geschrieben und funktioniert. Ich muss ich mal in das Thema einlesen. Danke erstmal. Kann ich die Global einfach durchlassen neuerdings?
 
AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

nein, die Karte brauchte ein Update .... lass die wieder blocken
 
AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

Ja, keine Panik. Hatte ich weiterhin geblockt. Habe einfach nur geschrieben.
 
AW: Solo SE2 - Sky mit v14 plötzlich dunkel - no matching reader

Nun ist mir aber aufgefallen, dass nachdem ich die EMM geschrieben habe, das mein Payload nun folgendermaßen aussieht:
  • 2016/05/28 10:45:38 3B9DF2BA r (reader) skyv14 [videoguard2] Decrypted payload
  • 2016/05/28 10:45:38 3B9DF2BA r (reader) 00 80 0E 02 03 00 0F 06 00 00 00 00 00 02 20 04
Bedeutet das jetzt tatsächlich, dass die Karte jetzt vorgepairt ist?
 
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