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    Oft kommen fragen im Forum auf, wie die Boxkeys von der RSA ausgelesen werden können und die Suche ist hierzu oft unübersichtlich. Aus dem Grund haben Wir jetzt diesen neuen Bereich erschaffen, Wo vor allem erfahrene User Howtos hinterlassen können.
     
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    Das Posten sprich veröffentlichen von RSA- und Boxkey bleibt aber weiterhin untersagt, oder?
    Sollte man vielleicht als kleine Info zufügen...
     
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    danke phantom und skywalker, das wird ja ein interressantes thema.
    ich moechte abu dhabi tv in meiner dream zum laufen kriegen, die karte ist hardgepaired nit der original box.
    aber ein paar grosse payserver haben abu dhabi tv am laufen, also muss es ja moeglich sein.
    wo fangt man an?
    hat jemand eine idee
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    Hier geht es mehr um das auslesen der Keys, nicht um das Posten von ausgelesene Keys.
     
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    Habe hier ne SunTV INDIA GlobeCast Karte CAID 640 GBR

    Möchte die gerne an Start bringen -> ist aber leider gepaired mit der Box.
    Muss irgend wie gehen -> da die nur per Telefon die Serial der Box abgefragt haben.

    Info: die Karte war noch nicht in der Box -- bisher NUR im Smargo+

    Versuche die Karte via CCcam 2.2.1 auszulesen / zu sharen ...
    Das "I" wird grün aber das Bild bleibt dunkel ;(

    Die Karte ist eine Irdeto Kappa 5.7



    Vielen Dank für jegliche Infos ...
     
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    Hallo,

    finde auch das es ein interessantes Thema ist, leider mit wenig Resonanz!
    Das hier hatte ich mal im www gefunden, für interessant befunden und per copy&paste gespeichert. Ob das alles so stimmt oder aktuell ist....keine Ahnung!
    Links habe ich entschärft, der Inhalt scheint mir aus Beispielen zusammengesetzt.Wenn etwas trotzdem nicht Forenkonform ist, bitte korrigieren!


    Code:
    Kudelski N3 bits and pieces, plus thoughts on key / rsa extraction from flash.
    N3 Notes mostly from forum posts by TheCoder
    
    These are notes for future reference more than anything else, so please no excited emails about how its wrong, or right, or can I h*ck your box.
    
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    There are three different pairing methods used N3 boxes presently. These are DT06, DT08 and Secondary key.
    
    The DT06 method transfers a compressed form of an rsa pq keyset from which the CAM public/private rsa keyset and its associated modulus can be derived.
    
    The DT08 method transfers the cam modulus along with the IRD number of the married box. The public rsa key is not transferred but it is implied that the box already knows this value.
    
    The Secondary key method does not involve a transfer. It imples that the box already knows the cards matching CAM modulus and rsa public key value.
    
    Various boxes, depending on make/model, may use any of the above pre-pair key transfer methods but it could be useful to know which box uses which method.
    
    Instructions:
    1 Stick your N2/N3 card in your card reader
    2 Run NagraEdit – DO NOT ATTEMPT TO READ YOUR CARD !!!
    3 Select the Comm Tab. This should give you an upper and lower text pane
    4 Cut/Paste the scriptt below into the top pane
    5 Press the “Send D2C” button/icon
    6 Results should appear in bottom pane
    7 Interpret your results based on info below.
    Script – Read DT06/DT08
    Code:
    
    rs
    tx 21 C1 01 FE 1F
    rx
    tx 21 00 08 A0 CA 00 00 02 12 00 06 55
    dl 02 00
    rx
    dl 02 00
    tx 21 00 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 00 1C 7E
    dl 02 00
    rx
    dl 02 00
    mg *
    mg *** DT06 info ***
    tx 21 00 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 06 13 **
    dl 02 00
    rx
    mg DT06 response1
    dl 02 00
    tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 86 13 **
    dl 02 00
    rx
    dl 02 00
    mg DT06 response2
    mg *** End DT06 info ***
    mg *
    mg *** DT08 info ***
    tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 08 13 **
    dl 02 00
    rx
    mg DT08 response1
    dl 02 00
    tx 21 00 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 C8 55 **
    dl 02 00
    rx
    dl 02 00
    mg DT08 response2
    tx 21 40 09 A0 CA 00 00 03 22 01 88 55 **
    dl 02 00
    rx
    mg DT08 response3
    dl 02 00
    mg *** End DT08 info ***
    *******
    Just to clarify :
    The important bits your looking at are the DT06/DT08 responses (the bits that start with Rx: )
    ie RX: 12 00 15 A2 11 08 E0 00 00 00 5E 01 20 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 90 00 B3
    RX: 12 40 15 A2 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 90 00 64
    RX: 12 00 15 A2 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 90 00 24
    and
    RX: 12 40 57 A2 53 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90 00 64
    
    If the responses vary significantly from the above, with the 00's replaced with some varying data, then its likely your card had the specified tier and is probably using the corresponding pairing method.
    
    If the DT06 response contains lots of 00's then its NOT DT06 pairing
    If the DT08 response contains lots of 00's then its NOT DT08 pairing
    If its not DT06 or DT08 then its probably secondary key.
    
    For non DT08 cards (mostly the newer boxes) each box has a unique cam_n already built into its firmware – this can only be extracted from the actual box itself.
    
    About the Algorithm,
    
    N2 encrytion was based on the following algorithm ->
    decrypted message = ( (IDEA( ( (EncryptedMsg ^ 3)Mod N1) ,IdeaKey) ) ^3) Mod N1
    Thats 2 distinct algorithms. An RSA algorithm (performed twice) and an IDEA algorithm.
    The key for the RSA algorithm is something like -
    RSA EMM-G=15A811B2065DF39CD48C9C958E7B406345295B09D0E9A18A 9B92C5FD7761CAAFAB830880F1F06B4E4477F157EA10D0AFC3 FDDB1ED2E7E83E89F03FF81237047DB76F79D6A2CFD75A7255 D72E52E7F47B96C2DFBDEBFC80CE927F6AD351FDF0BF8DA13F F62295BFBAF29035A230136D0B4AA99D38DD8B0465F2C709FC 8818173C
    Which, as you can see, is a 128 byte (1024 bit) number. This is the main encryption key for EMM decryption.
    The IDEA algorithm, which acts as an inner layer to the RSA has a standard 16 byte (128 bit) IDEA key.
    There is no algorithm in N2 (or N3) that only uses an 8 byte (64 bit) key although some providers have opted to use 3DES rather than IDEA as an inner layer. This uses three separate 8 bye (64 bit – only 56 bits used) keys to form an amalgam 168 bit DES algorithm.
    
    If Using DT08 (0a) on the card :
    The Dt08 (0a datatype on card) is created by the provider and sent to the card at sub time.
    The dt08 contains the Cam N public rsa key along with ird/boxkey.
    The dt08 is IDEA encrypted with the Idea Key made from ird/boxkey/inverted ird.
    The dt08 is RSA encrypted using Ird N (public rsa key) and Ird D (private key and uknown by anyone but provider).
    Ird N = N1 xored N2
    Ird N1= A4E9B585932F90282FD70C908176E8605E6B2CE629335A0FC1 5B31DAB0BFC6FEEB88CFC69649994CD3FE039C9965C620C4D5 828E9153998EE4AE0E8C25644DF3 xor
    Ird N1= 237280AAB36BE4B21FC71FBF08218E532A545E744D7B007FF8 69BA426831C4AC653F3825ADE9358FCD1F0239EC447CBC2765 CC0AEBE437AF2270FC461C2FA042
    Ird N = 879B352F2044749A3010132F89576633743F729264485A7039 328B98D88E02528EB7F7E33BA0ACC31EE101A57521BA9CE3B0 4E847AB7AE21C6DEF2CA394BEDB1
    The Ird N1,N2,Ideakey exist in the tsop.
    Ird E = 3
    Ird D = UKNOWN, this is the reason you can’t create your own dt08 without changing the N1/N2 on the tsop, you must know Ird D.
    
    DT08 (0A) = IdeaEncrypt(CamN/Ird#/Boxkey/Idea Signature,Ird_Ideakey) ^ D mod Ird N.
    
    Ird requests DT08.
    Card sends back the dt08 (0a)
    Ird decrypts the dt08.
    Decrypted dt08 = IdeaDecrypt(DT08,Ird_IdeaKey) ^ 3 mod Ird N.
    It checks the ird # and boxkeys in the Decrypted 08 if they match what is on ird,
    it stores the Cam N in the decrypted 08 in ird memmory.
    
    If Using Secondary Key (SK) on the Ird.
    Ird checks for SK exists on the ird, if it does, the dt08 will never be requested/ignored from the card.
    Ird validates the SK with idea signature in the SK (using IIIIIIII01924314051647990A9C4E1 where I = irdnumber).
    Ird takes the Cam N in the SK and puts it in ird memmory
    Note : Cam N is not even encrypted in the sk, very weak method compared to dt08.
    
    Later, establish session key (0C datatype on the card):
    Ird requests 2a data from card.
    Random 2a is sent from card to ird.
    Ird performs some Idea signing (leave it to you to look up 2a/2b routines)
    Ird comes up with session key from the 2a message sent from Cam.
    Ird encrypts the session key with rsa.
    Encrypted 2B = (2B data with 16 byte session idea key) ^ 3 mod Cam N.
    Sends encrypted data back to card in 2b message.
    Cam decrypts 2B with Cam N, Cam D. Decrypted 2B = (Encrypted 2B) ^ Cam D mod Cam N.
    If valid, store session key in ram and on card for later use.
    
    This all happens as ird boots.
    When you select a channel.
    Ird sends Cmd 07 ECM message with control words encrypted.
    Cam decrypts the control words rencrypts them with Idea encryption using the session key established above.
    The ird then requests the control words.
    The Cam sends them back in the 1C response.
    The ird decrypts the control words with with Idea encryption using the session key established above.
    Sends the control words to the mpeg decoder.
    8 seconds of video.
    Repeat 07/1C process over and over.
    
    ——–
    
    and pay special attention on CMD$2A ??
    
    it should reply the CAMID serial number + 64 bytes random key generated and then shortly after encrypted with the CAM(AKA Conditional Access Module or SmartCard) RSA primary 96 bytes from the card… the so famous RSA modulus keys 96bytes at eeprom $8xxx on the ROM110 days.. From the card (this cmd is also the first step of the SessionKey negotiation)
    
    shortly after the receiver receives this card reply.. and will decrypt it using the Secondary Key which is also 96bytes, this key is build up by using the following information stored in the receivers flash..
    
    IR IR IR IR ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ 00 03 F1 F1
    F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK
    SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK
    SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK
    SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK SK
    SK SK SK SK SK SK F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 CR CR
    
    total 96 bytes..
    
    IR = Receiver serial number
    XX = Unimportant
    EE = RSA public exponent for STB
    F1 = SK signature 1 used to calculate the box key
    F2 = SK signature 2 used to calculate the box key
    SK = RSA public modulus N
    CR = CRC Checksum
    BB = BoxKey result from xoring F1 with F2 keys stored in the flash firmware from the receiver
    
    once we decrypt the cmd2A we extract from inside the original 64byte random key generated in the card, then we will apply the IDEA encryption algo on the first 32bytes from the 64 byte random key to hash out the session key.
    
    So this first 32 bytes are extracted from the 64byte random key and will be encryted using the IDEA SIGNATURE key… this key will be generated by the following information
    
    IdeaKey generation
    BB BB BB BB BB BB BB BB + CC CC CC CC + CA MI DC AM
    
    BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB = Boxkey result from F1 xor F2
    CCCCCCCC = IRD number from receiver stored in Flash firmware
    CA MI DC AM = CAM ID or Smart Card serial number converted in HEX, which can also be extracted by simply sending INS CMD$12 to the card..
    
    so the IDEA signature key for encrypting the first 32bytes extracted from the 64 random seek key is
    
    BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBCCCCCAMIDCAM
    
    once applied the IDEA encryption we will have the result 16 byte sessionkey.. which will be stored in the receiver flash for a few hours… to be more precise around 5 hours..
    
    Now going back to the calculation done before, the receiver decrypted the cmd$2Aencrypted by the card with the RSA primary 96 stored in the card.
    once decrypted it simply just extracted the first 32bytes of the 64 byte seed key generated by the card. this 32 bytes were used for calculation of the 16byte sessionkey..
    
    but, before the 32byte keys was taken for the idea signature encryption.. the receiver.. re-encrypted the 64byte random key using the SECONDARY KEY RSA 96 stored in the receiver flash, which i just stated above how to get this key…
    and will send it back to the card on cmd$2B
    
    the card will receive the cmd$2b and will decrypt it using the PRIMARY RSA modulus key 96.
    and will extract just the first 32bytes.. and by using the BOXKEY+IRD+CAMID stored in the card, the card will also calculate the same 16 byte session key.
    
    in orde to make the card pairing , u need to know the RSA_N+BOXKEY+IRD NUMBER+CARD SERIAL number or CAMID…
    
    then with them all together we can start comunication between the card.. and on the CMD$2A and $2B we will have the SessionKey negotiation which i just explained previously.
    
    if for example on one side or the other we have different BKand RSA… we will a session key failure.. and without this Sessionkey we will not be able to decrypt the CM$1C or $9C related stuff
    
    this means that if negotiation of session key succeds, then the receiver will send the ECM$07 to the card, which will then be decrypted by simply just using the ECM RSA modulus key and the ECM IdeaKey to decrypt the Control Words / CWs.
    
    once they are decrypted the card will send them to the RECEIVER.. this is normally done via CMD$1C obviously this CMD is encrypted with the Sessionkey 16 BYTES described above.. once it arrives at the Receiver end, you will use the same Sessionkey 16byte to decrypt that CMD$1C and extract the REAL DCWs Decrypted Control Words to open up the Video and Audio stream related for that XX amount of seconds…
    
    Now this Session key is refreshed every 5 hours.. this means that every 5 hours a new session key is produced.. so every 5 hours the card generates another 64byte random seed key using other RSA algo inside the card.., and will then send this 64 byte seed key to the receiver again.
    
    Shortly followed by all the procedure described above to extract the new session key again.
    
    —————-
    
    Given that ==================================================
    SK 96 BYTES
    ==================================================
    11111111<----------------------------FIRST 4 BYTES---- IRD
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX<--NEXT 10 BYTES---- unknown
    1111111111111111<--------8 BYTES---- Y1---WRITE DOWN
    ==================================================
    11111111111111111111111111111111-_
    11111111111111111111111111111111-_-_"N" 64 Bytes
    11111111111111111111111111111111-_-
    11111111111111111111111111111111-
    ==================================================
    1111111111111111<-------8 BYTES--- Y2-----WRITE DOWN
    XXXX<-------------------2 BYTES--- CHECKSUM
    ==================================================
    Y2 Xor Y1 = BOXKEY
    ==================================================
    
    006e convert from hex gives you 110 bytes block cipher
    
    ird 4 bytes
    bk 8 bytes
    sk 96 bytes
    
    leaving us with 02bytes used to encrypt, decrypt above.
    
    eg:
    
    00 00 00 6e 34 0d 20 1c 03 03 70 80 5a 8e dd 24
    ac cc a4 a6 e2 da 86 91 29 18 0b a6 23 6d fa c4
    05 7f 1b 20 97 eb 0c 19 b3 39 2f 1e cb 9b 67 4d
    ed 10 f5 65 ec 0d c7 35 ac f0 b8 89 b0 51 59 22
    69 85 d5 f1 93 48 7a 84 6e 1f b4 24 83 79 db 02
    4d b0 9c 5e 8b df 89 57 9c 5a 7f 9a cc 87 51 3b
    15 6b 15 cc c4 2f 66 e7 e6 75 4f 24 f2 07 85 0d
    db b0 3d e2 64 dd e9 54 ad 77 60 e7 8f a6 cd a6
    46 c3 b8 fa e4 e7 51 2d 6a 2f 95 68 56 b5 78 34
    17 6b b8 48 38 87 c4 95 e5 b0 41 2c 95 e1 24 aa
    4b 2a 6f 8c 90 53 29 a9 6b 3d 0a b5 92 1c 95 ec
    72 b9 54 a9 99 f5 f3 dd f4 0f 60 c3 25 5b 5b 81
    22 e8 79 c5 be 8f 3c 89 2b 8a ad ba 27 b0 c2 f7
    b1 4f 08 d5 37 2a 97 c5 f0 07 9d 99 be c7 8a a9
    cf 5a c5 45 ce 1e 25 43 81 95 7a 22 33 ed 93 74
    
    Gives:
    
    00 00 00 63 (length)
    
    0d 20 1c 03 03 70 80 5a 8e dd (unknown)
    
    24 ac cc a4 a6 e2 da 86 (y1)
    
    91 29 18 0b a6 23 6d fa c4
    05 7f 1b 20 97 eb 0c 19 b3 39 2f 1e cb 9b 67 4d
    ed 10 f5 65 ec 0d c7 35 ac f0 b8 89 b0 51 59 22
    69 85 d5 f1 93 48 7a 84 6e 1f b4 24 83 79 db 02
    4d b0 9c 5e 8b df 89 (64 bytes)
    
    57 9c 5a 7f 9a cc 87 51 (y2)
    
    Y2 XOR Y1 = 0x579c5a7f9acc8751 xor 0x24accca4a6e2da86 = 42 12 8C F2 39 39 55 FA
    
    So, a flash dump would be helpful..
    
    Possible Scenario's -
    BGA, TSOP, TLGA etc.. desoldering for Flash.
    Put in a socket. eg from
    htxx://shop37051047.taobao.com/ or htxx://shop34694309.taobao.com/?search=y
    
    Pop flash back onto something else, read, dump. eg
    htxx://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7422440993
    
    Get box key, rsa key (if req. based on a check of DT type from the actual subbed card)
    Pop flash back in socket.
    
    Been there, done that for data recovery on faulty flash drives, plus most of the places I know down at QJlu have SMD / BGA desoldering capability or better.
    
    Bunnies blog is fairly good at explaining the basics (albeit for xbox) – htxx://www.xenatera.com/bunnie/proj/anatak/xboxmod.html
    
    Most boxes use ARM based SoC’s for things. Also possible to just throw up a dev board, and interface to that.
    
    Although most boxes also have some form of OS running, so just as feasible to dump flash that way also assuming serial or jtag access and a bootloader is available.
    
    Amusing that people like htxx://www.flashbackdata.com/blog/?p=195 claim this is hard – there are plenty of tools for this already out there eg softcenter, pc3000, plus all the local chinese stuff. Semi ok forum here talking about flash recovery, although not as technical as I’d like.
    
    htxx://forum.hddguru.com/hard-disk-d...forum-f12.html
    
    Once key(s) are had, then I can use my own decoder rather than the crappy one the broadcaster uses.
    
    
     
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    Hallo, gibt es irgendwo ein HowTo dump? möchte dies für meine d+ machen...
     
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    Hallo zusammen

    Habe eine Dreambox und einen VU+ E2 basierte Betriebssysteme und habe einen Pace HD+ Reciver von ZON was auf nagra 3 läuft und gepairt ist. wie kann ich die RSA und den Boxkey auslesen damit ich es auf meiner Dreambox oder VU+ zum laufen bringe, mir gefällt nähmlich das Pace HD+ gerät in der Menüführung und auch sonst nicht wirklich.

    Bin auch bereit etwas dafür zu bezahlen.

    Brauche eure Hilfe dringend!
     
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    Das können normalsterbliche nicht selber machen.
    Musst du dich in Portugisischen Foren umhören und Kontake suchen, dort ist das Problem "bekannt".
     
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    Und das läuft dann meist immer auf das Selbe hinaus: Man soll Receiver und Abokarte gegen Vorabzahlung irgendwo hin schicken. Danach sind Receiver, Abokarte und Geld sind verloren.
     
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    Naja in Portugal / Spanien geht es seriöser zu ;)

    Polen / Osteuropa würde ich aber nicht empfehlen.
     
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    wie bekomme ich den von einer Digital TV die keys raus ?
     
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    Was ist Digital TV ?
     
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    canal+ spain, hier gibts jungs die machen das, wollen € 300
     
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    wenn du mir 1000€ gibst mache ich dir auch ein image mit sky:JC_hmmm:
     
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